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Intent versus Nature
Published on July 2, 2004 By CS Guy In Philosophy
I find the work of Immanuel Kant very interesting. In his Fundamental Principles of the Metaphysic of Morals he discusses the moral value of actions. In the first two sections of that work he proposes some ethical propositions that have often returned to my mind in the twelve years since I first read them.

The first of these propositions differentiates praiseworthy behavior from moral action.

“To be beneficent when we can is a duty; and besides this, there are many minds to sympathetically constituted that, without any other motive of vanity or self-interest, they find a pleasure in spreading joy around them…But I maintain that in such a case an action of this kind, however proper, however amiable it may be, has nevertheless no true moral worth…”

Consider two situations:

Alfred is, by nature, a good man. He wishes nothing but goodwill towards others, is generous with his resources, and routinely helps his fellow man. Alfred discovers a mother and her young children in need of help, and so offers them food, shelter, and even money.

Bart is, by nature, not a good man. He is selfish, vain, cruel, and routinely ignores the plight of his fellow man. Bart also discovers a mother and her young children in need of help, and for some reason decides to give them the same assistance that Alfred offered.

Who has done the better good?

According to Kant Bart did. Alfred was already disposed towards aiding others, and so this behavior does not represent a move towards greater morality. Bart, however, went against his nature and made that move towards greater morality.

This, of course, presupposes that a man can have either a good or bad nature.


While reading The Once and Future King, by T.H. White, I encountered a character depiction that reminded me of this idea of the greater morality.

White has my favorite characterization of Lancelot. In his story Lancelot is not a good man by nature. He is vain, selfish, and he holds most of humanity in contempt. He is, by nature, rude and arrogant.

However, he is also self-aware. He realizes he is a jerk, and he also realizes it is his duty to not be so. So by conscious act he suppresses his natural inclinations and puts on a front of the perfect knight. People believe it, and he is praised as the most honorable, humble, and kind of the Knights of the Round Table. Even the Queen is fooled by his ruse and falls in love with this paragon of virtue.

Some people, aware of his inner thoughts, would say he was unworthy of such praise. I think Kant would claim otherwise. After all, the kind knights were just overcoming external foes. Lancelot overcame those external foes as well as some internal ones.


Comments
on Jul 03, 2004
Good post.  I like your take on Lancelot's ethics...
on Jul 06, 2004
Did you like the book or just Lancelot's character?
on Jul 06, 2004
Did you like the book or just Lancelot's character?


It is my favorite depiction of the Arthurian legend. And many people have been exposed to it without knowing. The book is actually split into three books; each with a remarkably different style and theme.

The first book deals with Arthur’s origins and life as a child. The style is very whimsical and much like a traditional fairy tale. A battle between two knights is seen as a source of amusement, and neither is really able to inflict serious harm on the other. This book would be familiar to many Americans, since Disney’s The Sword in the Stone was taken nearly word-for-word from it.

The second book, my personal favorite, deals with a few generations of Knights of the Round Table. Arthur takes a somewhat backseat here as White focuses on the tales of the Knights. This book has a more serious tone, but is still very upbeat. This is the golden age of Camelot.

The third book is very dark and morose. This book deals with the fall of Camelot. I found it to be quite depressing, especially after the first two books. This tone, and White’s excellent writing, truly makes one grieve for what was lost.

Taken as a whole, a most amazing read, and one of my all time favorite works.

on Jul 07, 2004
I will have to give it a try then. My favorite Arthur tale is by A.A. Attanasio Link.

What are some of you favorite books? I am always looking for new stuff to read.

on Jul 07, 2004
What are some of you favorite books? I am always looking for new stuff to read.


I think I'll post an article about some of my favorites. It's long enough to warrant it's own thread.
on Jul 08, 2004
Yeah, the same old "prodigal son" crap. Nixon was praised for going to China because in the preceding twenty years he was fiercely critical of communist China and greatly contributed to China's ferocity in the Korean war. If a Democrat had made the conciliatory move he would have been hanged in effigy. Kant, by the way, leaves little room for immoral behavior when one considers his categorical imperative, since we should all act on the premise that it be universal law--no ifs and buts.
on Jul 08, 2004
I don't like this idea either. I don't think we should take for granted good deeds from a good person and applaud a bad person for doing a good deed, even if we humans often do. Personally, it tells me that I should be more malicious if I want to be respected.
on Jul 14, 2004
It reminds me of the Japanese take on samurai: given two samurai who both obey their masters, which one is the better samurai? The one who does dark, terrible deeds at his master's command, which he finds personally despicable, or the one who performs the good acts that his master orders, and which he enjoys?
The standard answer is that it is more difficult, and therefore more honorable, to follow the orders go against your nature. The fact that you are doing terrible things is irrelevant; what is important is to follow the orders you are given. The samurai who is able to follow orders that he hates to obey has been truly tested and found capable, while the samurai who has never been given an order that he hates has never been tested.
on Jul 14, 2004
That kind of logic makes the people who participated in the Iraqi prison torture look more honorable and more moral than those who'd have refused to do so. What kind of morals are we trying to teach people? That it's better to be evil as long as you're slightly guilty about it or do something good sometimes than it is to be good?
on Jul 14, 2004
Joseph, that was the Japanese way in their feudal period. Obedience was the trait valued most highly by their culture at that time.

However, I think what we're trying to get at here is that the more effort it takes to do something good, the more noteworthy that good act is, regardless of the absolute size of the good act. To give an example that you may find more palatable, if I have $1,000,000 and I donate $10 to the local food shelf, is that really just as valuable an act as when you, who have only $11, donate $10 to the local food shelf? Yes, in absolute terms, my $10 goes just as far as your $10. But your act costs you much more relative to your capabilities.

To evaluate my Samurai simile, replace "good" with "obedient" in the first sentence of the preceding paragraph.