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Her Idea of Civil Discourse
Published on July 26, 2004 By CS Guy In Politics
Teresa Heinz Kerry shows us what she means by restoring American politics to the high ground. Apparently it means taking no responsibility for one’s statements and offering contempt for people that ask for clarification on those statements.

    BOSTON July 25, 2004 — Teresa Heinz Kerry urged her home-state delegates to the Democratic National Convention to restore a more civil tone to American politics, then minutes later told a newspaperman to "shove it."

    "We need to turn back some of the creeping, un-Pennsylvanian and sometimes un-American traits that are coming into some of our politics," the wife of Sen. John Kerry told her fellow Pennsylvanians on Sunday night at a Massachusetts Statehouse reception.

    Minutes later, Colin McNickle, the editorial page editor of the conservative Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, questioned her on what she meant by the term "un-American," according to a tape of the encounter recorded by Pittsburgh television station WTAE.

    Heinz Kerry said, "I didn't say that" several times to McNickle. She then turned to confer with Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell and others. When she faced McNickle again a short time later, he continued to question her, and she replied, "You said something I didn't say. Now shove it."


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on Jul 26, 2004
Thank God for a person with guts enough to say what she thinks. Reporters are just bully goons at times and they need someone to talk back.
on Jul 26, 2004
"Thank God for a person with guts enough to say what she thinks. Reporters are just bully goons at times and they need someone to talk back."


Hope you were that supportive when Cheney told someone to "F*ck yourself". It'll be fun to watch all the liberals waffle now and tell people to stop being so prudish.
on Jul 26, 2004
Thank God for a person with guts enough to say what she thinks. Reporters are just bully goons at times and they need someone to talk back.

right, because asking someone what they actually meant by a word like "un-American" is just acting the bully goon. Asking someone to clarify their statements is an outrageous thing for a reporter to do.
on Jul 26, 2004
Oh, that reporter was a "major league asshole" and you know it! Big Time.
on Jul 26, 2004
VP Cheney, on the Senate floor as President of the Senate, told another senator (Leahy) to "Go Fuck Yourself." As someone who has told people that same thing before (usually while in a bar or in the bleachers at a baseball game, not in the Senate chamber) I wasn't offended. Now people are saying that because the wife of a candidate told a reporter to "shove it", that this is an issue? Please. If this is the most substansive thing to be discussing right now in regards to the upcoming election, then we are all in big trouble.
on Jul 26, 2004
I'd accept her behavior much more if she wasn't denying something she said minutes before that incident. Of course, she might have simply been high and completely forgotten about what she said.
on Jul 26, 2004
I can see how people can get tired of the media hounds but if asked to clarify something that you said (on tape) and you deny it only to reply with "shove it" well, your asking for trouble.

Thank God for a person with guts enough to say what she thinks. Reporters are just bully goons at times and they need someone to talk back.


Yeah...she had guts enough to contradict herself and top it off with a LAME recovery "shove it"......good call lol.
on Jul 26, 2004
As someone who has told people that same thing before (usually while in a bar or in the bleachers at a baseball game, not in the Senate chamber) I wasn't offended. Now people are saying that because the wife of a candidate told a reporter to "shove it", that this is an issue

It's not that she told a reporter to "shove it". It is that she contradicted something she had said minutes prior, that she responded in this manner to someone trying to clarify her own words, and that the message of her presentation was supposed to be a plea for greater civil behavior.

And I am not offended. I am more amused by her strengthening the image I had of her than anything else.
on Jul 26, 2004
It really must be a slow news day that this matters or that anyone cares.
on Jul 26, 2004
It really must be a slow news day that this matters or that anyone cares.
on Jul 26, 2004
It really must be a slow news day that this matters or that anyone cares.
on Jul 26, 2004
Sorry I don't know why that came up three times. Can you delete the extras. Oops.
on Jul 26, 2004
True. It's not as if anything Mrs. Heinz Kerry says matters anyway.
on Jul 26, 2004
True. It's not as if anything Mrs. Heinz Kerry says matters anyway.

You don't think the words of a potential First Lady carry any weight?
on Jul 26, 2004
Thank God for a person with guts enough to say what she thinks. Reporters are just bully goons at times and they need someone to talk back.


If she was saying what she thinks, why was she so quick to back off the fact she said "unAmerican"....when she repeatedly said that she didn't use that word, she was lying...plain and simple.

right, because asking someone what they actually meant by a word like "un-American" is just acting the bully goon. Asking someone to clarify their statements is an outrageous thing for a reporter to do.


But only if that reporter is talking to a Democratic candidate or spouse, apparently.

I'd accept her behavior much more if she wasn't denying something she said minutes before that incident.


Exactly! At least Cheney never denied it....he even said he wouldn't change it if he could have the moment back.

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